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Paul Answers Your Questions...

I, Paul, have been asked many questions over the years about my journey running and thought it would be beneficial to create a page at this site which lists many of those questions and my responses. There is a lot of information on this page and to make it easier I've listed the questions below. Just click on a question below and you'll go to its answer.

How do you do what you do? Answer >>

Why do you do what you do? Answer >>

Are you a professional athlete? Answer >>

How many people can do what you do? Answer >>

When did you first become a runner? Answer >>

Are you available for speaking engagements? Answer >>

How difficult is it to organize a P.A.C.E. Trek each year? Answer >>

Do your legs ever hurt, and how do you train for something like this? Answer >>

Do you enjoy what you do, and do you ever get lonely? Answer >>

Why do you always use a stroller for your gear? Answer >>

What do you have for communication? Answer >>

What do you have for protection? Answer >>

What do you do if BOB breaks down? Answer >>

What electronic equipment do you carry on BOB? Answer >>

Do you allow people to run next to you during P.A.C.E. Treks? Answer >>

What makes a person decide that they want to run across America? Answer >>

What was the most memorable response you got from someone as you explained
    your planned U.S.A. run to friends and family beforehand?
Answer >>


Five people had run solo across America, ocean to ocean, before you. Did you
    contact them? If so, what advice, good or bad, did they have for you?
Answer >>


Are there any special bonds you made with specific 4th and 5th grade students of
    Russell Elementary (Missoula, Montana) through your U.S.A. run?
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Why is it important to you to teach kids about fitness? What can an average
    teacher do to help?
Answer >>


For individual state runs, how do you decide which states to cross? How do you
    plan a route?
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What was one of the most difficult moments you’ve had during one of your P.A.C.E.
    journeys?
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You've had to jump from the road's edge to avoid being hit by inattentive drivers.
    What makes you get up, dust yourself off, and keep going and not quit?
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Can you tell about a transcendent moment you've had (brought on by the beauty of
    scenery, adrenaline rush, etc.)
that you’ll always remember?
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You’ve run in extreme heat, snow, rain, and more. Which weather conditions are
    the hardest?
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Is it true that you tried to run across America in 1986 at the age of 21? Answer >>

What lessons can other people learn from your experiences, regardless of their
    goals, about not giving up?
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Do you provide advice, coaching, route planning, and/or sponsorship assistance to
    those wanting to run across the United States or other journey run?
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How Do You Do What You Do?

This is probably the most common question that I'm asked. Each time I attempt to answer it I feel that my response does not fully answer the question. In short, covering 30 to 40 miles everyday (and sometimes more) while pushing an 80-pound jogging stroller over all sorts of terrain and through all sorts of conditions (weather, traffic, etc.) is often an incredibly difficult task. Of course, you have to truly want to conquer the distance and if you are not properly motivated then it is likely you're not going to succeed.

Physically you have to be able to endure the pain and discomfort that comes with doing this, and it certainly helps to have many years of experience. You have to know your body well and how to take care of it each day (prepare and repair it for another day on the road), and you have to constantly be monitoring your food and water intake throughout the day as well as your pace, body discomforts, and the terrain in front of you (mountains, valleys, crowning on the edge of the road, and more). The mental aspect is important because you have to manage pain as you continue to move forward. In fact, the mental element for me is probably more at work than the physical element. For me, there is a faith component as well. As a Christian athlete I lean on my faith to see me through each day. I don't use the P.A.C.E. Trek web site to promote or endorse any particular denomination or spiritual path. However, my faith has certainly gotten me through many miles that I don't believe I could have conquered without it. Then, there's a social element where people are encouraging you forward and their positive words are fuel to the heart that truly help to make the next mile a little easier. So, there is the physical, mental, spiritual (faith), and social components all working together in balance to propel me forward through P.A.C.E. Treks.

Aside from that, you have to have the right gear (and I do with the stroller, "Bob") and you have to have a very good game plan for the trek as well as countless hours of organizing and training. It really is a second job for me throughout the year. Also, for me it's wanting to use the abilities I have to try and make a positive difference in the world. We all have abilities and many of us experience the joy that comes with using those abilities. However, when you choose to use your abilities to benefit others and not only yourself, you open yourself up to a whole new level of enjoyment in your abilities. Some may think that I use P.A.C.E. as a platform for attention, kudos, or to say 'Hey world... look at what I can do!' However, that's not it at all. I truly enjoy using my endurance abilities to try and make a positive impact in the lives of others - whether children or adults. In addition, you have to be willing to accept the assistance of others, whether that be a donation of lodging, food, money or time. Over the years P.A.C.E. has truly shown me the heart of America - from coast to coast. There are many more people in this world that want to see people succeed than there are those who want to see people fail. It's important to graciously accept donations which help keep the project moving forward, and often it's just a person taking a moment out of their life to help keep me moving down the road.

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and most important for me you have to have the love and support of a family that is committed to seeing you succeed at your goals. I have that with my wife, Vicki, and my four children - Brian, Kyler, Ashlin and Jenna. My P.A.C.E. endeavors are only possible due to the efforts, sacrifices and expense of our entire family. As I've said before, I work year round from a home office, so my family has me around more than most families see their father/husband. My wife and kids would confirm that I go to most of their school and sporting events, do chores around the house, and am like most men who have families. I work a full-time job through my corporate web development business, OnTrack Designs, and certainly try to encourage my own family more than I encourage teachers and students around the world. In addition to all of this, I am Founder/President of The P.A.C.E. Fitness Foundation. HOW I do P.A.C.E. Trek is a combination of many factors. It's not just one thing. Hopefully this answer gives you a little better insight into what I juggle to make each trek a success. If interested, you can read more of my thoughts. Oh... one last thought. To do what I do it's also good to have at least 2,000 songs on your iPod (and I listened to all of them while on the U.S.A. run).Top of Page

Why Do You Do What You Do?

The reason I do these long endurance treks is simply this: I want to encourage young people to take care of themselves, set goals, and see that what might seem impossible is indeed possible. I want kids to think outside of the box (the television box and computer box) and to realize that this big blue marble spinning under our feet that we call earth has many wonderful adventures and opportunities available and that they
the children can have some great experiences if they choose to pursue their goals and dreams. P.A.C.E. stands for Promoting Active Children Everywhere and that's what I'm trying to do while at the same time setting an example through my own life and actions. Life is a great adventure, and it all begins with a single idea and by taking that first step. I'm a former 5th grade teacher and each P.A.C.E. Trek gives me an opportunity to have a "classroom" for kids around the world... giving them a chance to run and walk along with me while learning about the places I'm actually trekking through, and which they're virtually trekking through. P.A.C.E. is truly a one-of-a-kind fitness and learning opportunity. Also, there's the personal challenge that I enjoy. I like to push myself to extreme endurance limits to see what I'm capable of. Then there's the added bonus of meeting so many wonderful people during my journeys and seeing so many places and the feeling of accomplishment after crossing the finish line is indescribable.Top of Page

How Many People Can Do What You Do?

The short answer: More than you may think! I am certainly not the world's greatest long distance runner, contrary to what some kids might think! There are many ultra-marathon runners and journey runners in the world. I'm definitely not the only person who can cover mega miles everyday... day after day. I was the 6th person to ever run across the United States solo and unsupported - from the edge of one ocean to the edge of another ocean. However, there have been over 200 people who have run or walked across America "supported" (having a support vehicle next to them and not pushing gear). Also, there are many ultra-runners around the world who cover large distances (such as 100 miles in a single day, or running in 6-day races, or taking on other challenges beyond the 26.2 mile "marathon" distance). In fact, I truly believe that there are many people in this world who can do these ultra-endurance treks but don't know that they can. They simply haven't tried to do it. So, I'm not the only person on the planet capable of doing this. I've just chosen to do this because I'm motivated to encourage children using this ability that I have.Top of Page

When Did You First Become A Runner?

During the spring of 1976 I was in the 5th grade and had a teacher by the name of Mr. Cummings. One day, Mr. Cummings took our class outside to run a mile... and I really didn't want to do it. It was a beautiful sunny day and we ran on a grass-covered area in a large portion of land that was next to our elementary school. Mr. Cummings yelled "Go" and we all took off. As soon as I started running I began to enjoy this particular activity, which I initially didn't care for. I ran well and finished ahead of the other students in my class. I don't remember my time, but afterwards Mr. Cummings called me over and told me: "You're a runner". It was the first 'title' that I had ever been given. I truly respected Mr. Cummings and valued his opinion. I took his words of encouragement and ran with them, literally. From that day on I believed that I was indeed "a runner" and joined the track team in my 6th grade year... running throughout my junior high and high school years - and through my adult years. Running has been a real joy in my life. Thanks Mr. Cummings!Top of Page

Are you available for speaking engagements?

Yes! If you've visited my school assembly page, you've seen that I am available to visit schools anywhere and to give presentations. I'm available to speak at a variety of settings, whether it be an elementary school, middle school, high school, college class, sports team, running club, retirement home, medical facility, business, retreat, church group, or other community organization. I am the recipient of the 2008 Distinguished Service Award from the Montana Association for Health, Physical Education, Recreation and Dance and have also received a Healthy Hero Award from the Mayo Clinic's CardioVision 2020 program for my efforts in promoting childhood health across the United States. In March 2010, I was inducted as the first European PTA Youth Ambassador.

Professional, Athletic & Family Background Includes:

Married for 23 Years to Vicki and the Father of Four Children
6th Person To Ever Run Solo Ocean To Ocean Across USA
Inducted As The First European PTA Youth Ambassador
Only Person To Run 620 Miles Across Montana... Twice!
First To Run 500 Miles Across Germany With A Stroller
First To Run 500 Miles Through Alaska With A Stroller
Holds 2 B.A. Degrees from the University of Montana
Developer Of The P.A.C.E. Virtual Trek Curriculums
Torchbearer for 2002 Olympic Games Torch Relay
Professional Web Developer & Internet Marketer
Founder of The P.A.C.E. Fitness Foundation
Coach of Middle & High School Athletes
Former 5th Grade Teacher
Public Speaker/Presenter
Runner Since 1976
Business Owner

I have experience speaking at fundraising dinners, team events, youth group and church events, K-12 schools, businesses, sports events, and more. And yes, I can even bring "BOB" along so that your audience can see up close what I push for thousands of miles during P.A.C.E. endeavors! You may contact me directly to inquire about a presentation at your location.Top of Page The school assembly page has more information!

Are you a professional athlete?

I am not a professional athlete. However, I believe there are many people in the world who find this web site and believe that I’m a “professional” ultramarathon runner. In fact, I’m a small business owner, married 22 years, father of four children, former 5th grade teacher, and Founder/President of the non-profit organization called The P.A.C.E. Fitness Foundation. I spend some of my "spare time" organizing annual long-distance P.A.C.E. treks to promote youth fitness. From the time P.A.C.E. started in 2005 up to today I have spent approximately $13,000.00 of my own money to make P.A.C.E. Run 2006, P.A.C.E. Trek 2008, P.A.C.E. Trek 2009, and P.A.C.E. Trek 2010 happen
and that does not include loss of income while I'm actually on the road doing these extensive journey runs. If I'm not in my office working, I'm not making money. So, I do considerable financial planning for each P.A.C.E. endeavor, both to fund the journeys as well as provide for my family. I have, however, truly appreciated various forms of donations (financing, lodging, advertising and more) that have been given by individuals and businesses over the years to help in making these endeavors possible. Finding corporate sponsors for what I do has been difficult, and usually companies want to give you "product" but not "money". Products are certainly useful, but it is actual funding that gets the journeys not only to the starting line but also the finish line. If you're interested in sponsoring my efforts through The P.A.C.E. Fitness Foundation, please contact me with your thoughts.Top of Page

How difficult is it to organize a P.A.C.E. Trek each year?

Actually, it is very difficult... and time consuming. After I cross the finish line of a P.A.C.E. Trek, I'm already getting underway on planning the next one. It takes a year to get a P.A.C.E. Trek organized. Throughout the year I'm communicating with hundreds of school teachers located around the globe and am personally building my online classroom - which is unique for each trek. I have a lot of research that I do about the locations that I'll be going through and I'm often responding to a sea of e-mail messages. Aside from that, I'm logging a lot of training miles and fine-tuning BOB for each journey. For those of you who don't know, there is not a team of people working behind the scenes to create each P.A.C.E. Trek. It is organized completely by me... from the custom P.A.C.E. web sites, to the advertising, to communicating with teachers, to training, to route selection, to arrangements for lodging, to transportation reservations, and more... I do it all myself. It is a huge personal and financial commitment by both myself and my family.Top of Page

Do your legs ever hurt, and how do you train for something like this?

There are times that my legs hurt... and my feet... and my back. But that is just a part of what I do. Pain comes with this sport and the key to getting through to the next milepost is learning how to manage pain. It's not a matter of blocking out pain, but rather managing it so that you can continue. You don't want to mentally "block out" what is happening to your body as you do ultra-endurance events like this. You need to stay very aware of what your body's needs are and how it is responding. You need to manage your movements and pace so that you can endure. Daily icing of my legs and feet truly help in reducing joint pain and inflammation. I use ice baths or slush buckets as much as possible and knowledge of proper foot care is essential
including the correct type of sock! I'll take Ibuprofen as needed and include in my diet supplements that are designed specifically for the type of endurance I do, including supplements for my joints. Having the right pair of shoes for your body type and foot strike is crucial.

With respect to training, it's not necessary to mirror the same mileage in training that you do during the actual trek. Proper nutrition, rest and incremental mileage building are essential. My training consists of running at varying elevations and at various tempos. Typically, a journey runner involved in an event will log mileage over the marathon distance day after day at a pace of around 12- to 14-minute miles. Of course, those who do journey runs by pushing their own gear tend to average nearer to 14 minutes per mile. That may seem slow to an average runner who trains for events ranging between a 5K and a marathon. However, when pushing 80 pounds of gear 30+ miles per day... day after day... over varying terrain and through constantly changing weather conditions, a 14-minute mile is a good pace. It's not necessary to log distances beyond the marathon distance (26.2 miles) each day in training. My personal daily distance training peaks at around 20 miles per day just before I begin a P.A.C.E. Trek. Of course, I am a strong believer in the value of cross training and often use my mountain bike when preparing for a journey run. I also do weight training and benefit from my own home gym
which has a Bowflex, treadmill, and recumbent exercise bike. I usually only use a treadmill when outdoor conditions are simply unsafe due to heavy ice on the roads or low visibility due to a snowstorm (I live in western Montana). Regarding running conditions in training, I always face traffic and as a P.A.C.E. Trek nears I will log two runs per day, pushing BOB during one daily run. Personally, I prefer to wait until conditions are at their worst before I got outdoors to run. If it's going to be a hot day, I'll normally wait until the thermometer is at its peak. Or, if a rain storm is due to roll in, I'll wait until the rain hits before heading out the door. The same can be said for cold temperatures and snowfall. I prefer to train in the most difficult weather conditions due to the benefits that it gives me both mentally and physically. Logging a solid training run in inclement weather conditions helps to build the mental edge that is needed for journey running and conditions your body to persevere through all sorts of weather. Most experienced ultra runners know the benefits of including walking sessions in long journey runs. I certainly do not run every step of the journey runs that I do. When you're pushing 80 pounds of weight with every step you quickly realize that there are some conditions where running can actually be more detrimental than good. For instance, when going over the Rocky Mountains or Appalachian Mountains you simply cannot "run" up a roadway that is between 7% and 10% grade while pushing 80 pounds. The stress on your legs and back is too great. You have to know when to run and when to walk. It is a balancing act and you simply have to monitor the terrain and your body's response. Generally, I can power walk uphill pushing BOB at a 4-mile-per-hour pace. Also, I've never had a personal trainer or a nutritionist, and I've never received treatment from a masseuse. However, I do receive checkups from a physician.

One of the most common thoughts I hear from people has to do with their amazement over the distances I can cover on a daily basis. When I ran 3,260 miles across America I averaged 30 miles per day for 108 days on the pavement. When I ran 620 miles across Montana I ran 31 miles per day for 20 days. The 18-day trek through Alaska required an average of 28 miles per day to do the 500 miles, and in Germany I averaged 24 miles per day through unseasonable adverse conditions. Of course, I do all of this while pushing 80-pound BOB, so the miles I log take every ounce of strength that my body can give... my feet and legs to propel me forward and my arms and back to push BOB each step of the way. It can certainly be exhausting and painful at times, and many people would classify what I do as "extreme". Perhaps it is, but it is what I enjoy doing. If I can make even one child pause and think about what he or she may be able to accomplish, or how he or she can be more healthy and fit, then all of the mileposts are worth it. Based on many of the comments I've read in my Guestbook and via e-mail messages from kids, I know that my efforts through P.A.C.E. are worth it. Covering distances of 30, 40 and up to 50 miles per day... day after day... is an experience that is very difficult to put into words. It is an amazing feeling to stand on top of a mountain peak after a 30+ mile day and look far off to the horizon and know that you just did all of that distance alone and unsupported... and that you can do it again tomorrow. Yes, I'm fortunate to have these experiences. I see locations in a way that most people will never see them as they cruise along at 70 miles per hour in a car. Each P.A.C.E. Trek is truly an adventure and I'm always looking forward to the next mile.Top of Page

Do you enjoy what you do, and do you ever get lonely?

I really enjoy what I do! Running has been my sport since I was 10 years old and although I am 45 years old now with a lot of miles behind me, I still love the sport as much as I did when I started back in 1975. You have to enjoy what you do in order to do it to the best of your ability. All of us leave a legacy in this world, and aside from my wife and children I want my legacy to be that I was a man who used his running ability to try and inspire and encourage others to set goals, take care of their bodies, and use their abilities to make a positive impact in their own lives and in the lives of others. There's no greater feeling than to do something you do well and to positively impact the world around you. It's awesome!

I do have times when I get lonely on the road. It's not easy being out there for miles and miles every day and to only have a stroller (BOB) as my companion. I miss my wife and 4 children and am always looking forward to an opportunity to speak with them. Sometimes people will stop me along the road to chat, and that's always a nice break for me. However, I've run through some very remote locations where there have been no houses, cars or any sign of life for many hours. Yes, I've had to get through loneliness on many occasions.Top of Page

What makes a person decide that they want to run across America from ocean to ocean?

On October 20, 2006 I became the 6th person in history to run solo and unsupported from one ocean to another ocean across the United States. Before me, five others had accomplished the solo task for various personal reasons. One of the keys to success is to run for a purpose that means a lot to you. A run across the continent takes an incredible amount of determination, endurance, commitment, and physical ability. To do it completely alone, as I did, magnifies those ingredients to a very uncommon level. My 3,260-mile run in 108 days on the pavement (P.A.C.E. Run 2006 – PACE being Promoting Active Children Everywhere) was simply to keep a promise to 97 elementary children in my hometown of Missoula, Montana. Some media reported that I was running to keep a “bet” I had made with the students. That was inaccurate reporting. The word I used from day one was “promise” and that is what I set out to do… keep my word to my then 5th grade daughter, Ashlin, and her classmates at Russell Elementary School.

In June 2005, Ashlin and I had a discussion about the fitness level of kids. She said, “Dad, wouldn’t it be great if we could come up with something to get the kids in my class more fit.” We put our heads together and came up with a virtual run/walk across America challenge that her 5th grade class, and the 4th grade class, would do during the 2005-2006 school year at Russell Elementary. My wife, Vicki, is the P.E. teacher at Russell Elementary and agreed that the run/walk across America project would be a good challenge for the students. I had done research on the Internet and could not find a successful virtual trek crossing of the United States by a single elementary class within one 9-month school year. I challenged the 4th and 5th grade students as follows: If either class (or both) can acquire enough running/walking mileage during the school year to virtually cross America from coast to coast, then I promise that I will run the route for real… solo. The promise was made to motivate the students, and it certainly did. There were forty-one 5th grade students on a team and fifty-six fourth grade students on another team. Throughout the year the kids virtually raced across the 3,200-mile route, crossing through 15 states from Oregon to Delaware. The 5th grade students finished the journey first, about 6 weeks before the end of the school year. The 4th grade team finished 3 weeks before summer arrived. As the kids ran throughout the year, I did also… preparing for the possibility of running solo across America. Overall, the students ran the equivalent of 3 marathons each during the course of the school year.

Then, keeping my promise, I left Cannon Beach, Oregon on June 23, 2006 heading for Delaware… solo. I pushed all of my gear in a jogging stroller weighing a total of 80 pounds. It included clothes, shoes, tent, sleeping bag, food, GPS, solar panel, video/camera gear, and more – including 2½ gallons of water. The summer of 2006 was the second hottest ever recorded in the United States and I often had days between 95 and 105 degrees. In fact, I didn’t see any rain for the first 1,000 miles of the west-to-east journey. I was motivated each day by recalling the wonderful effort the kids had put in throughout the school year, and I was also motivated to keep my promise to the kids. For 108 days on the pavement I logged an average of 30 miles daily, with my longest day being 48 miles. I ran through heat, rain, hail, tornado warnings, incredible lightning storms, and more on my way to Delaware. Then, on October 20, 2006, I reached Cape Henlopen State Park on the edge of the Atlantic Ocean in Delaware. My wife and four children were there to meet me and waves of various emotions crashed over me as I looked out upon the vast ocean. I had kept my promise and had succeeded at my biggest dream in running.

Yes, my purpose was to keep a promise to some school children. I also hoped that my run would inspire other children toward better health and fitness, and pursuing their goals and dreams. The run across America was an incredible experience and one that I’ll never fully be able to put into words. People run for a variety of reasons, and I know that my run across America is just one of many stories in the world of running. However, I know that there is great interest by many people to run across the continent because since I completed my coast-to-coast U.S.A. run I’ve been contacted by hundreds of people wanting advice, support or training assistance to do a continent run of their own. I cannot possibly reply to all of the numerous questions I receive each month from people, but I do see that there is a strong interest in running across the United States. Each person who has contacted me has shared their reason for wanting to run across America. The most common reason is to raise awareness of, and funding toward, the fight against an array of diseases. The inquiries I receive are as varied as the ages of those who contact me. I’ve heard from people as young as 15 and as old as 75 wanting to cross the continent for one reason or another. They typically find me through searches on the Internet.Top of Page

What was the most memorable response you got from someone as you explained your planned U.S.A. run to friends and family beforehand?

I would have to say that my most memorable response was from my parents. My folks, Mike and Jeanne Staso, live in Glennallen, Alaska in a home that my father built at the age of 73. Back in September 1986 I challenged the existing world record for the run across America (46 days) through a fully-sponsored record attempt at the coast-to-coast crossing. That endeavor, called Trans-America ’86, was supported by such companies as Timex, Gatorade, New Balance and others. My parents acted as my support crew, traveling alongside in their motor home. However, on the very first day I received a right-knee injury while coming off of a deep sidewalk drainage curb at mile 36. After 4,000 injury-free training miles I ended up getting hurt on the first day of the 1986 run across America attempt and had to cancel the journey.

Marriage, children, professional responsibilities, and more followed and my dream of crossing the United States by running seemed to fade with each passing year. My parents had hoped that I would one day attempt the journey again, but even they were beginning to wonder if it would ever happen as the years ticked by. In fact, my father had even kept the pair of shoes that I was wearing when I got hurt on September 19, 1986 and showed those shoes to me about 15 years later. He had hoped that one day I would try it again and he wanted to give me the shoes that I was wearing when the first attempt was halted. When I told my parents that I was going to run across America to keep a promise – 20 years after the first attempt – they were both so incredibly supportive and encouraging. They knew that it was my dream in running and were so pleased that it was for a much more noble purpose of keeping a promise rather than chasing after a world record. Hours before I completed my run across America in 2006 my mother sent me the following message:

“Over the past 4 months, many people have referred to you as "Running Man" - "Marathon Man" - and even "Iron Man"! But I am most fortunate of all. I am proud and honored to call you "Son". As I knew you would - you have kept your promise to the kids at Russell Elementary. You have been a shining example to them as well. My hope is that other adults in this country will join in, and continue the quest to promote health and physical fitness for children everywhere. They are our future and they need to be strong.”

My father sent me this note just before I crossed the finish line on October 20, 2006:

“Well your tremendous journey is almost over. It truly has been a remarkable achievement. Of course neither your Mom nor I had any doubt that you would finish what you started. We knew that the only way you would abort the run would be due to an unexpected injury or someone doing something foolish that would cause problems. Of course, as we read your guest book entries each day and saw how many people were praying for you we began to feel that you were being watched over all along the way. As a lot of folks have written, your daily journals have been great and a lot of fun to follow; however as your Mom and I spoke with you every day along the way, that you had phone coverage, we know that this journey was a lot tougher than you let on. It has really been a remarkable achievement.”

My parents were unable to be at the finish of the journey in Delaware, but as I ran into the waves they were truly there in my heart.Top of Page

Five other people had run solo across America, ocean to ocean, before you. Did you contact any of them? If so, what advice, good and/or bad, did they have for you?

There were five people who had successfully run solo from the Pacific Ocean to the Atlantic Ocean across the United States before I did it in 2006. I did not contact any of those people to seek advice – although one of those individuals did contact me a few weeks before I actually began my journey. The reason that I did not attempt to contact any of them is that I did not want to try and mirror their journeys or to be slanted one way or another with respect to what I may encounter. I wanted a unique adventure and by planning, preparing and training for the endeavor on my own without the assistance of those who had gone before me I took full ownership of my own experience and had the privilege and satisfaction of experiencing success in something that I had created with my own effort. Of course, I had made a fully-supported attempt at running across America in 1986 and had acquired a lot of experience in the planning and preparation for that undertaking – even though that crossing was not successful. In 1994, Forest Gump ran across movie screens and brought to the public’s attention the feat of running from coast to coast. However, I had personally attempted to do just that 8 years earlier. I’ve been compared to Forest Gump a lot and that’s just a ripple effect of our culture and its ability to be impacted by movies and other forms of media. I am not Forest Gump, although I’ve had many people write and ask me if I am the man that the movie was based on (some people just don’t seem to realize that Hollywood movies are not always based on true characters). Prior to my run across America I did hear from several ultra-marathon runners who offered advice on running through intense heat, how to repair and prepare the body each night for another day on the road, and similar endurance topics.Top of Page

Are there any special bonds you made with specific 4th and 5th grade students of Russell Elementary (Missoula, Montana) through your U.S. run that you could tell about?

As I've mentioned, I did the solo run across America to keep a promise I had made to 97 fourth and fifth graders at Russell Elementary in September 2005. Immediately I think of my daughter, Ashlin. It was she and I that created the virtual run/walk across America curriculum and to have her involved on the 5th grade team was so incredibly special to me. It certainly wasn’t easy being apart for nearly 4 months as I ran across the nation, but I believe that Ashlin learned a lot through the experience – particularly how a single idea can blossom into something that can impact the lives of many people in a positive way. There were certainly other children that truly ran and walked with commitment and zeal to place me onto America’s highways to keep my promise, and I appreciate each and every one that did there very best to accomplish their virtual trek through some rather difficult weather conditions in Montana – including some days of running and walking in zero-degree weather. Here are just a few of the notes that I received from some of the 4th and 5th grade students following my successful coast-to-coast run:

"I love that you kept your promise! Thanks for all you have done." Ryan

"I can't believe you ran that far! I've ran so much that I've gotten in better shape and I got faster, and I'm sure other kids have too! I think it's great that kids everywhere are getting in better shape. Now I run at home, at recess, and well... a whole lot of other places!
– Cami

"Not a lot of grown ups keep their promises."
– Cheyenne

"A friend and I are doing this thing we call 'Mission Possible'. We get together every Saturday to walk the track or ride bikes or something. We did it all because of you! Thanks!"
– Kristy

"I think it's great that you believe in yourself."
– Chantelle

"This year you encouraged us to virtually run across America. A lot of people thought that we couldn't do it, but we did!"
– Ollie

"You encourage kids to run, that don't normally run. By doing this you got us to realize we can do a lot of stuff... So for this, thank you."
– Matthew

"You are such an inspiration to me!"
– Chelsea

"Thank you for everything, especially keeping your promise. All I can say is WOW!"
– Alice

"Thanks for teaching us the good that running gets you." – Aaron

"I had so much fun during our virtual trek across America. Plus, I've become more fit!"
– Kelleigh

"From the virtual run experience I learned to never give up, even if you're exhausted. You should keep going."
– Jessica

"I think running is fun. I'm glad that you let us do the virtual Run/Walk Across America."
– McKenzie

"You have done so many good things, and this run is one of them."
– Joree

"You have been a real inspiration to me, and a lot of other kids."
– Ashlin

"I knew that you would keep your promise. You are awesome!"
– Emily

"I learned this year from running across America (virtually) that anything is possible. This has been a great year for me to run so much. You just have to set your mind to it and run!"
– Kristy

"I am so amazed of what you have done. You took the challenge and succeeded!"
– Shae

"One day I wish to become as athletic as you. I'm currently doing sports in school... and you just amaze me so much!"
– Laura

"I want you to know how much of a hero you are to our family. I am so proud of you that you made it across the U.S.!"
– Ashley

Those messages were written several years ago and the children noted above are now older. Hopefully, they remember what they accomplished in their virtual trek across America as well as why it was so important to me to keep my promise to them.Top of Page

Why is it important to you to teach kids about fitness? What can an average teacher do about kid fitness?

The current generation of children is far less active and fit as the generation before them. There are numerous reports and studies to support that fact. The numbers show why it is so important to teach kids about fitness:

Exercise can slow or help prevent heart disease, stroke, high blood pressure,
     high cholesterol, type 2 diabetes, arthritis, osteoporosis (bone loss), and loss
    
of muscle mass.

The average child gets less than 15 minutes of vigorous activity a day.

The average American child spends 20% of his/her waking time watching TV.

The average child consumes at least 20 ounces of soda pop a day.

9 out of 10 parents think their kids are fit, when only 1 out of 3 actually are.

In a typical P.E. class, only 27% of the time is devoted to motor activity.

36% of middle school students say they think kids who exercise do better in
     school; about 33% are not sure, and 28% disagree.

54% of students claim that their P.E. class is very important to them.

About 50% of all students report that P.E. class time should be increased in
     the middle school.

By the time they reach high school, 63% of children are no longer physically
     active.

Roughly 40% of U.S. school districts either have eliminated recess or are
     considering eliminating it.

An estimated 22% of American children under age 18 are exposed to second
     hand smoke in the home. It is estimated that 2,000 American young people
     become smokers every day.

78% of all Americans are not meeting basic activity level recommendations.

According to a U.S. Surgeon General report, obesity is responsible for
     300,000 deaths every year.

As the father of four active children, I am committed to encouraging kids toward greater health and fitness, and the pursuit of their goals and dreams. My unique approach is to use my ultra-endurance abilities to get kids running, walking and learning through long-distance journeys. I believe that through this combination of fitness and learning students experience places beyond their school boundaries in a unique and challenging way. Through each endurance trek I undertakes I aim to teach children a simple idea: If you take care of your body it can take you on some wonderful adventures. P.A.C.E. is about getting kids physically active... learning about new places... setting personal goals... working as teams toward a common goal... and encouraging children to think about what they might achieve in life.

The average teacher can encourage better nutritional habits and increased exercise by looking for creative ways to incorporate those subjects into their curriculum and not simply relying on P.E./Health teachers to do it. Getting kids more healthy and fit is going to require a team effort
including parents! Teachers need to be open to new ideas for promoting health and fitness, like signing up teams of school children for free to participate in P.A.C.E. Trek journeys. Teachers also need to model the right nutritional and health behaviors to set a good example for children. Teachers are in a position to impact a child’s life in a very powerful way, and as a parent and former 5th grade teacher I would encourage educators around the world to try and modify one area of their personal life or classroom environment to positively impact the lives of children toward greater health and fitness.Top of Page

In your individual state runs, how do you decide which states to run across? What kind of route planning do you do?

When I choose to run across a state, there are a lot of factors that come into play in arriving at a decision. For instance, when I chose to run 620 miles across Montana in 20 days during May 2008 I had to look at geographical elements (Great Plains, Rocky Mountains, terrain variances); climatic elements (running east-to-west into the jet stream, which involves running into a lot of wind; the heat/snow that occurs during that time of year in Montana [I ran in temperatures from 19 degrees to 90 degrees over the course of 20 days]; and other elements, such as rain and sleet); and, educational opportunities are important to examine, such as what areas of Montana that I wanted to teach about through my web site. The idea is to get kids running, walking and learning. P.A.C.E. Treks are active learning at its finest, and I’m the only person in the world who is taking children on a virtual running/walking challenge by being out on the road and using the Internet as my roadside classroom.

I speak at many schools each year and children often have recommendations as to where I should run. For the 2009 P.A.C.E. Trek I decided to run 500 miles through Alaska. I chose Alaska for several reasons: (1) many children had suggested it because they were curious about that place and didn’t know much about it; (2) I grew up in Alaska and returning to the place of my childhood intrigued me; and, (3) I believed that Alaska will be a significant personal challenge while at the same time being a location that would be wonderful to share visually while at the same time being one that children could learn a lot about. In preparation for any state crossing there are a lot of training miles to be accomplished as well as detailed route planning in order to pass through the highlights of the state to be crossed. I have to examine lodging options, daily terrain challenges, and much more when arriving at the daily mileages that I’ll attempt on such a run. For the Alaska challenge, I logged an average of 30 miles per day on the solo trek... pushing all of my gear in an 80-pound jogging stroller.Top of Page

Why do you always use a stroller for your gear? How beaten up is 'BOB' by the time you’re done?

When I was planning my run across America in 2005 for the summer 2006 attempt, I decided that I wanted to create the most difficult running challenge possible. For the 2006 run across America I was 41 years old and I knew that I was at an age where I truly wanted to test my endurance abilities in the most extreme manner possible. I had to study options for how to run across the country alone and it was very important that my body not carry on it the weight of any gear. Therefore, a jogging stroller seemed like the most ideal means of taking my essential gear across the country. The stroller was sponsored by BOB Trailers, Inc. of Boise, Idaho and is an Ironman Sport Utility Stroller. It’s nicknamed “BOB”, which stands for Beast Of Burden – which it truly is. I’ve used the same stroller for all of my training miles and for each journey run that I’ve done, including the U.S.A. crossing – so it has logged thousands of miles! The stroller is still holding up very well and the only repairs it has required are new tires and a replacement of the brake cable. Other than that, Bob has performed amazingly well in all of the demanding conditions I’ve had the stroller in.

The stroller has been slightly modified from its “out of the box” form, but it is indeed the same stroller that I’ve used for each P.A.C.E. endeavor. It is a very convenient way to be able to be solo for thousands of miles while at the same time having everything with you that is necessary for conquering 30 to 45 miles on a daily basis. The stroller carries many items, including: food; water; clothing; shoes; sleeping bag; tent; phone; computer; GPS; solar panel; weather band radio; and, other equipment. It can carry up to 20 gallons of water via two 100-ounce CamelBak reservoirs with thermal control kits, as well as a couple of other hand-held containers. The stroller is equipped with lights in the front and back for traveling in dark hours of the day, and is outlined with highly-reflective material for optimal visibility. The all-weather solar panel charges my GPS unit, phone and iPod. The question is, which will hold up longer… BOB or I?Top of Page

What do you have for communication?

For past journeys I've had such things as satellite and cell phones, two-way-radios, and Wi-Fi computers. The standard forms of communication tools that I carry on BOB are a cell phone (which is for both voice and text) and a Wi-Fi computer. I also use a SPOT, which constantly communicates my precise position via Google Maps. The SPOT also provides me (and my family) with the comfort of knowing that I have 9-1-1 emergency assistance at my fingertips 24 hours per day. Also, I occasionally use Skype to communicate with family while I'm on the road for P.A.C.E. Treks. I feel confident that between my cell phone, mini computer, Skype service, and SPOT that I have excellent communication tools for my treks.Top of Page

What do you have for protection?

BOB carries particular tools for protection against unfriendly animals or people who may be aggressive. I have a 3-foot long club, pepper spray, and a knife. I do not carry any form of firearm on BOB. Through the thousands of miles I've covered during P.A.C.E. journeys I've never had to use my pepper spray or knife, and have only had to use my club once on an extremely aggressive dog in Alaska that acted a lot like a wild wolf. I keep my protection tools close at hand.Top of Page

What do you do if 'BOB' breaks down?

If BOB gets a flat tire while on the road, I simply stop and repair it. I carry a tire tube patch kit as well as spare tubes and one spare tire. A flat tire is typically the kind of "break down" that BOB has. However, the stroller does not get that many flat tires! In fact, during the run across America it had only 8 flat tires (which is about one flat tire every 400 miles). And, it didn't get any flat tires during the 620-mile run across Montana, the 500-mile run through Alaska, or the 500-mile run across Germany! I put new tires on BOB after every 500 to 700 miles of rolling. If BOB were to experience a serious problem
such as a cracked frame I would need to seek assistance to help get it repaired. Overall, BOB is one tough stroller!Top of Page

What electronic equipment do you have?

I carry specific electronic equipment on BOB for each P.A.C.E. journey. I have a small computer, a digital camera, and a digital video camera that I use for updating my online classroom during each trek. BOB also carries a cell phone, SPOT tracking device, a GPS unit, iPod, and an all-weather radio. Size and weight of each item are as small/light as possible since I have to push all of the gear. The solar panel that I have on BOB charges some of the items during the day, and I have power cords to plug in my electronic equipment at night to obtain full charge. The lights on BOB are battery-operated.Top of Page

Do you allow people to run next to you during P.A.C.E. Treks?

I've had people join me before for some miles during a P.A.C.E. Trek, but I've had to put a maximum on how far I'll allow for them to be with me. In the early days of doing P.A.C.E., I'd have some people run with me for as much as a half marathon (13 miles). I've even had a running club meet me on the road and run with me in a relay fashion - one person running a mile and then tagging another running club member who runs the next mile... and so on. I got to the point where I needed to set a limit on how far people can run with me.

There are two reasons why I've set a limit: (1) because my journey runs are designed to be "solo" and part of the mental challenge of a solo run across a state or country is being completely alone and relying on yourself to push through the miles; and, (2) because it can be distracting to run with someone else. Let me explain that "distracting" comment. You see, when I do a P.A.C.E. Trek I am pushing 80 pounds of gear. Those who want to run with me are not pushing anything and often end up pushing the pace because they don't have 80 pounds in front of them slowing their stride. I often feel like I'm having to try and keep up with their 6-mile-per-hour or more pace... which is not good. Also, it's distracting because I am typically on the edge of highways and those who run with me tend to want to be right next to me. That creates a greater danger with respect to traffic, and too often my attention is on keeping them safe. Finally, the people that run with me are strangers and I truly don't know their fitness level. I had a guy go 10 miles with me once who was breathing incredibly hard - only to inform me afterward that he had never run that far before. I definitely don't want someone collapsing next to me while on the edge of the highway. For these reasons, and others, I've decided to limit the distance people can go with me to 3 miles (about a 5K distance).

When someone runs with me I always let them push "BOB" (the support stroller) for at least one-half mile. They quickly see how demanding it can be to push 80 pounds of gear every step - particularly along the edge of a narrow roadway where the stroller may be halfway on rough ground and halfway on pavement. Then, they understand why I average about 4 to 4 1/2 miles per hour when I'm on a P.A.C.E. Trek. When you're doing between 26 and 40 miles per day, every day for 3 weeks, the body needs to fully understand what it means to pace properly. You must run to the rhythm of the terrain. Walking breaks are essential, especially when going uphill. The stress on the calf muscles when trying to run uphill with 80 pounds of gear (particularly on a 6% or greater grade) is too risky for a journey runner, so staying alert to pacing, terrain, and a constantly shifting running/walking needs is essential. I have to stay focused when on a journey run, and I am all too often in and out of focus when other people enter the picture. It's not always another runner who can be a distraction and keep me from entering the 'zone' I need to be in when I'm on a journey run. Sometimes, it's just curious people who pull their cars over and want to talk.

Those who contact me and request to run alongside me are informed of the 3-mile maximum distance. There is a lot that goes on during a typical day on the road. There's constant monitoring of food and water intake; speaking with those who stop me along the road (curious people; reporters; etc.); taking pictures and videos for my online classroom; monitoring my pace, distance covered, and distance remaining; taking care of my body as needed; getting to my daily destinations on time (particularly if I have a speaking engagement scheduled for the end of a running day); and more. From sun up until sun down my days are quite full during a P.A.C.E. Trek, and then there's the nightly routine of icing my legs, taking in proper nutrition, hydrating, and generally repairing and preparing my body for another demanding day on the road. So, allowing someone to come into my mentally/physically busy day for 3 miles seems reasonable. However, accompanying me for a few miles must be arranged ahead of time and anyone joining me must run/walk at the pace I set. And, each day begins with a 2-mile walk, and ends with a 2-mile walk.Top of Page

What was one of the most difficult moments you’ve had during one of your P.A.C.E. journeys?

One of the most difficult moments during my 2006 run across America occurred when I was about 1,300 miles into the trek while in the Standing Rock Indian Reservation of South Dakota. The day called for 30+ miles in wide-open plains and the temperature quickly soared over 90 degrees. That being the second hottest summer ever recorded in the U.S., there was no water and the countryside was brittle and desolate. You could literally wait a couple of hours before seeing a car. I was running along and came up onto this small rise in the terrain… only to look out onto a view of the highway going straight off into the horizon for as far as you can see. The heat was shimmering off of the pavement and I still had about 12 more miles to go on that long, hot day. I stopped in my tracks and stared at the sight before me. I had already conquered 1,300 miles through intense heat and the deserts of eastern Washington and eastern Montana.

I hit an emotional wall at that moment and simply started to cry. I began to question why I was doing the run and what difference, if any, it would make in the lives of others. It was truly a low point in the journey and had I not been alone out there I likely would have told my support crew to get me out of there. I had no cellular service and for one reason or another my satellite phone was not picking up a satellite signal – which I thought was odd for being out in the middle of nowhere. I was truly falling apart emotionally and the heat and conditions were pounding me into the ground. I made a lean-to with the stroller and a tarp that I had brought along to create some shade – since there wasn’t a tree to be found for at least a hundred miles. I sat in the lean-to and tried to pull myself together. I was truly struggling to take even one more step and then I realized that the thermal tarp I was sitting under was making me feel like a baked potato. I knew that I had to get moving and get out of that heat. My lodging was somewhere off in the horizon and I had to get there.

So, after an hour of struggling emotionally I crawled out of the lean-to and stepped back onto the searing hot pavement. I walked at first… very slowly… literally concentrating intently on taking each step. I truly felt like a two-ton elephant was on my back. My mind felt defeated and my body was joining in on the struggle. Somehow, I managed to complete the distance and arrive at my lodging. I spent the evening trying to regain focus and ability in all areas – mentally, physically and others. The next day I stepped onto the highway and conquered 28 miles in 90-degree heat in 7 hours. I had succeeded at getting my mind and body back into the trek. From that point on, I only got stronger and never again experienced such a low on that particular journey.Top of Page

Sometimes you've had to jump from the edge of the road to avoid being hit by inattentive drivers. What makes you get up, dust yourself off, and keep going rather than quitting?

During my run across America I had to literally pull the stroller and jump off the shoulder of the road 7 times to avoid being hit by a car or semi-truck that wandered onto the edge of the highway. I always run facing traffic so that I can see what is coming. When you’re running 30+ miles every day it gets difficult to concentrate every moment while having traffic approach you at speeds of up to 70 miles per hour. It gets particularly more difficult in large cities – such as my experience in Washington D.C.. However, it’s imperative that I not lose focus and that I stay aware of what drivers are doing. My life depends on it.

There have been many instances when I’ve laid in a ditch with the stroller after jumping to avoid being hit by an inattentive driver. With each instance I’ve managed to avoid serious injury. However, that’s just a part of what I do. My wife and children understand the dangers associated with the journey runs that I embark on and their love, support and prayers are so crucial to my success. I have a strong will to not only live, but to live a life of purpose. I am now 45 years old and after 23 years of marriage I can tell you that my wife and four children are truly my motivation and inspiration. They unselfishly let me go off on these endeavors knowing that I do so to try and positively impact the lives of others. Without their love and support, I would never be able to do what I do. It’s not always easy to climb out of a roadside ditch and brush myself off to keep going, but I know in my heart that what I’m doing is making a difference in the lives of some people. I guess that’s what I hope will be my legacy. To positively impact the life of even one child to pursue his or her dreams while maintaining a healthy lifestyle makes all of the mileposts worth it. I don’t dwell on the dangerous part of what I do. I simply rely on the thousands of miles of experience I have, and as a Christian I place my full trust in God to protect me and to bring me safely back to my family.Top of Page

Can you tell about a transcendent moment you may have had (brought on by the beauty of scenery, adrenaline rush, or something else) that you’ll always remember from one of your runs?

As I’ve mentioned a few times in my journal entries during P.A.C.E. endeavors, I’m a Christian and truly believe that I’ve been blessed with an ability to persevere. With that said, there have been many times when I’ve looked back over my shoulder at the end of a long day on the road and simply been amazed at the distance I was able to conquer alone. There are many times when I look down and see my legs moving along and wonder why I’ve been blessed with such abilities of endurance, determination and simply a “don’t quit” attitude when it comes to such treks.

One day in particular that I recall was on August 5, 2006 when I ran 42 miles from Ingomar, Montana to Forsyth, Montana on an 85-degree day during my run across America. I began the day at 3:00am in order to try and avoid some of the afternoon heat and experienced two incredible moments. The first occurred the moment I stepped out onto the highway at 3am. I was in the middle of the eastern Montana plains and the sky was filled with stars. After the first 3 miles of the day I turned off the lights on the stroller and just stood under the stars… watching the twinkling lights and seeing an occasional shooting star. There was no wind whatsoever and the silence was incredible. No cars… no people… no artificial lights… just a vast sea of stars above me. It was a moment that made me think about just how small I am in the grand scale of this universe we live in. It was actually a humbling experience and one that I’ll always cherish. Later that same day I experienced a sunrise that was absolutely breathtaking. I watched the sun slowly rise over the horizon as a group of antelope ran around me. I felt as free as a person could be and I stood there thinking about my life and how fortunate I am. It was an incredible day and I often think back on that when my business or family life have me running in 20 directions at once. Everyone should have such a moment that they can recall when life seems to be running full throttle.Top of Page

You’ve run in extreme heat, snow, rain, and more. Which weather conditions are the hardest?

Both cold weather running and hot weather running have their own unique challenges. I’ve run in temperatures ranging from 25 below zero (40 below zero with wind chill) to 112 degrees. It’s crucial to know precisely what your body can take with respect to temperatures, exposure time, and overall pace. In my 33 years of running I’ve learned well what I can endure. I believe I perform better in cooler temperatures. It’s always easier to layer up more for warmth and to generate heat through movement to stay warm than it is to try and cool down while logging 30 or 40 miles on a 100+ degree day. Most of my solo daily runs while crossing a continent or state require me to log more than a marathon per day – and I don’t have an air-conditioned support vehicle to climb into. Heat can be quite a foe in trying to log such distances day after day in constant exposure. It’s very depleting and successfully performing self monitoring of body temperature to avoid heat stroke can be challenging. Since the stroller does not carry a freezer, it’s impossible to carry ice successfully through 8 to 10 hours in 80, 90, or 100-degree heat. Even with thermal insulators, my water supply becomes warm on the stroller.

During the summer of 2006 there were countless reports of people suffering from heat stroke in cities nationwide. I was running across America alone on a pavement surface that was often radiating over 130 degrees of heat during that summer. Heat can be a killer and I truly was fortunate to avoid serious injury due to the intense temperatures. I’m contacted by a couple of people each week wanting advice on how to run across America. What I do is extreme and requires a level of experience, concentration and perseverance that is somewhat uncommon by the average runner. I don’t say that to pat myself on the back or to try and acquire a following of admirers. It’s just that solo running through hundreds and thousands of miles on a trek while pushing 80 pounds of gear over a marathon per day is more demanding that can be fully explained. The terrain and weather conditions are always changing, as are the social conditions around you. One day you’ll be going through a city of thousands of people in a hurry to get to offices or stores and who could care less about the guy on the side of the road with a jogging stroller. The next day you could be in the middle of nowhere and exposed to the elements in a way that only journey runners completely understand. You have to be able to handle all situations well, and with a level of confidence and wisdom that are truly sharp. If you attempt such undertakings without that, you can quickly place your life in danger.Top of Page

Is it true that you tried to run across America in 1986 at the age of 21?

Yes, that's true. I was attending the University of Montana and running... a lot. I was logging about 130 miles per week and believed that I could take on the world record for the run across America. The year was 1986 and the world record had been set in 1980 by Frank Giannino, Jr. of 46 days, 8 hours, 36 minutes. Back then the Internet didn't exist and it was difficult to get much information about journey running or how to tackle such a challenge. I did the best that I could in my training, planning and preparation. I managed to pick up some very good corporate sponsors, including: New Balance; Gatorade; Spenco; Duracell; Timex, and others. My parents were my "support crew" with their motorhome and on September 19, 1986 I began running at Pillar Point on the Pacific Ocean (which is near San Francisco, California). The plan was to try and log 68 miles per day across America, arriving in New York City ahead of the current world record. However, on the very first day I twisted my knee while stepping off of a deep drainage curb and the pain did not allow for me to keep on the record pace. The trek ended only 6 hours into the odyssey. It was very devastating for me and my dream of running across America was put aside for 20 years while I went about the life and responsibilities of being a husband, father of four children, and business owner. It wasn't until 2006 (20 years after the first attempt) that I actually succeeded at the run across America - although it was to keep a promise rather than to set a world record. To me, keeping my promise means far more to me than any world record would have been. So yes, at the age of 21 (in 1986) I tried to run across America. Although that run was not a success, it certainly laid the foundation for the long distance running I would do in my adult life and ultimately it helped to prepare me for my solo U.S.A. run in 2006. By the way, the world record for the run across America set by Frank Giannino, Jr. in 1980 has not yet been broken!Top of Page

What lessons can other people learn from your experiences, regardless of their goals, about not giving up?

Any goal worth pursuing takes dedication. My journey runs require me to stay dedicated to the purpose with each stride. I hope that my P.A.C.E. treks show that the human spirit is quite strong and we can often accomplish much more than we believe we can. Thorough planning and preparation are crucial to success, and accomplishing any task requires a combination of heart, will and commitment. I am rather tenacious when it comes to P.A.C.E. treks. I have been in so many difficult situations and one thing that I’ve learned about myself is that I won’t quit. Sometimes I have to endure a lot of intense pain to do what I do. However, in the end I’m always quite satisfied with the endeavor and hope that along the way I’ve been a positive role model for children.

It’s an unfortunate fact that many people give up on their goals too easily. They set goals and then hit the first road bump and call it quits. Later in life they look back with regret, wishing that they had persevered and worked harder at their goal. When it comes to my running career, I know that I won’t have any regrets. By running across the United States I fulfilled my biggest dream in running and since then I’ve been able to speak at many schools, banquets, conferences, and more – hopefully encouraging others to pursue their goals and to take fitness more seriously. In short, it doesn’t matter what goal you set for yourself. What’s important is what you do to reach that goal. The first step is to believe in your heart that it is indeed possible. In 1986 I announced that I wanted to run across America. The reaction of most people was that I was crazy and it couldn’t be done. It took 20 years until I was able to successfully run across America and for 20 years I endured the laughs and negative comments of those who were aware of my dream to run across the United States. On October 20, 2006 my final step into the Atlantic Ocean quieted those pessimists forever. Not everyone is going to support your goals. What’s most important is that you believe in your goal… and that you pursue it with your whole heart.Top of Page

Do you provide advice, coaching, route planning, and/or sponsorship assistance to those wanting to run across the United States or some other journey run?

With respect to advice or sharing "tips", I do not provide assistance to individual journey runners in planning, organization or training for a run across a continent or to take on another type of journey run. Since completing my run across America I’ve been contacted by hundreds of people wanting advice for a variety of treks in and across America
by running, walking, biking, skateboarding, unicycling, inline skating, and more. I simply cannot provide the advice, coaching, sponsorship, planning assistance, and so many other things that people seek from me after reading through my P.A.C.E. Run 2006 web site. I always direct people to this web site to learn about my personal journey runs and to acquire as much information as they can from my written experiences. My run across America web site is the most thorough site online about a solo run across America. There is a lot of information in those web pages and I’ve had many novice and experienced journey runners benefit from what I’ve shared there.

So, why don't I commit to communicating with all of the people who contact me with their cross-continent or other journey run goals? For the most part, it's a matter of time. I own and operate a small business; am a frequent speaker at events; log many of my own miles on the road; am always planning for the next P.A.C.E. Trek; oversee The P.A.C.E. Fitness Foundation; am a husband, a father, and avid fan from the sidelines of my 4 children's events; and so much more. My life is very full and although I wish each and every adventurer well, I cannot provide the type of communication and assistance so many people seek. In addition, as I stated above, in planning my own run across America I did not attempt to contact any of the few people who had accomplished a solo crossing before me. I did not want to try and mirror their journeys or to be slanted one way or another with respect to what I may encounter. I wanted a unique adventure and by planning, preparing and training for the endeavor on my own without the assistance of those who had gone before me I took full ownership of my own experience and had the privilege and satisfaction of experiencing success in something that I had created with my own effort.

Take care, be safe, and believe in your heart that you can do it. Perseverance is an ability that everyone has, but not everyone has it to the same degree. If you are completely dedicated to your personal reasons for doing a run across America (or some other journey run), and you have planned and trained thoroughly, then you should be successful. I’ve never known anyone who has done their first journey run and walked away from it the same person as they were before starting. Journey runs tend to reveal things about a person’s character that do not normally surface in everyday life. Those stepping out to run across a continent
or to take on some other journey challenge need to enjoy the journey and cherish the experience. It will certainly make an impact on your life that will last the rest of your days!Top of Page

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